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New Message"You forgot to fill the Subject field",-dedi-ya.! (modified 0 times) sherzod
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Bitta sitega to'qnashib qoldim; bitta Amerikalik O'zbekistonga Peace Corpsda ishlavotgan o'rtog'ini ko'rgani borgan. Ta'surotlarini yozgan. Vaqt topsangla, o'qib ko'ringla. Qiziqarli topishlaring mumkun
http://netjunk.com/users/unpretentious/uzbek_1999_01.html

Sherzod

Apr 30, 2000 12:46:24HOST/IP: 141.209.40.134

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) just walked by
he koyile, uzbek bolib bunaka narsalarni kurmovdim, amerikanec bula turib ezgan narsalarini karang, "black market, toilet, etc" manimcha unga uzbekiston ekan. yana kim bilsin? kizikrli makola topganingiz uchun rahmat sizga sherzod. take care.
Apr 30, 2000 18:42:52HOST/IP: 38.202.58.34

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) UniversaL
Assalomu aleykum!

Sherzod, umuman olganda siz horijdan kelgan mehmonlardan faqatgina shunday "haqiqat"ni kutishingiz kerak emasmi, agarda u kishi Peace Corps'dan bo'lsa, unda umuman ulardan nimani kutvosiz!?

Hozirgi paytda, yoki hozirgacha desak orinli bo'ladi, MDH davlatlarida eng dahshat muammolardan bu - yog' surishdir, niyat qilamanki siz mani tushungandirsiz ...

Hurmat bilan,

UniversaL

Apr 30, 2000 20:31:28HOST/IP: 207.157.19.108

New MessageBy the way... (modified 0 times) sherzod
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Hursanman silaga yoqqanidan...
Darvoqe, man hali oxirigacha o'qimagan edim. Mana hozir o'qivomman. To'g'risini etsam, o'zim ham qoyil qovomman...Oyijoooonnnn.... qip-qizil haqiqat-a hammasi. Achchiq haqiqat yomon ekan; oqivomman-u, uyalib ketivomman. Ahir aksariyatimiz shuncha yashab, hatto o'ylanib ko'rmagan bo'lsak ham kere.
Paxta haqida ham yozgan narsalari.....hatto yangiliklar haqida ham gapirilgan...
toilets, pits.... wards, medical care..... cotton farms.... muncha uzun bo'lmasa, mani esa imtihonim bor hali, qoganini ertaga o'qiman shekilli. Mayli bolla, take care
May 01, 2000 04:06:34HOST/IP: 141.209.40.228

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Niso
Da ladno, rebyata, ostin'te. Zachem takuyu chush chitat'?

Vidala ya takih "visokovospitannih" i "visokoobrazovannih" sviney ( izvinite za pryamotu, no po drugomu ih nazvat' trudno) Zapada.
Oh poslala bi ya ih...

OK, tem ne meneye spasibo za naydennuyu statyu.

Vsyo-taki inogda obidno za Otechestvo...

May 01, 2000 14:19:05HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageHuh? (modified 0 times) sherzod
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Salom Niso (ism chiroyli ekan).
Siz bilan tortishish niyatim yo'q, ammo "nima uchun 'chush'"?- deb so'ramoqchi edim.
Birinchidan: Vaqtingizni ogan bo'sam (bo'lsak) uzr;
Ikkinchidan: Yozilganlarning aksariyati qip-qizil haqiqat;
Uchinchidan: Bu maqolani taklif qilishimdan maqsad: Vatanning chet elliklar nigohidagi aksini bilish juda ham qiziq tuyuldi;
To'rtinchidan: Bizda hali ham mavjud bo'lgan Sovet davridan qolgan sarqitlarni ochib bergan; barcha islohotlarning ham asosiy maqsadi o'sha sarqitlardan qutulish emasmi?
Beshinchidan:
May 01, 2000 15:51:30HOST/IP: 141.209.172.141

New MessageBilmasdan "reply"ni bosivoripman :( (modified 1 times) sherzod
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(Uzr, "reply" ni bosivoripman")
...Davomi:

Mayli, Niso, Oxirida etmoqchi bo'gan gapim shuki, hamma narsaga ham 'chush' deb qarash yaxshi emas (agar yanglishivotgan bo'lsam to'g'irlang), tanqidning to'qson foizi yaratuvchanlikka asos bo'ladi. Bizga esa yaratuvchanlik juda ham muhum.
Hurmat bilan
Sherzod

P.S. ACCELS 12 mayga qoldiribdi biletlani, darsim esa 4 mayda tamom bo'ladi. Rosa ta'bim xira bo'lib o'tiripti Previous Page

May 01, 2000 16:05:35HOST/IP: 141.209.172.141

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) hello_world
The objections I could write to the author of the article are a long list. Yet, i do not have time for that right now. Maybe I'll be able to do it after my finals.

Because it is only through explaining them their errors in perception that we can establish our own niche in their view.

May 01, 2000 16:22:33HOST/IP: 128.91.39.227

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) sherzod
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Hello hello_world (Gosh, you remind me of my first Perl program Previous Page).
If you decide to send him your objections, I would really wanna take a look at that.
Didn't you find the article interesting tho?

Good luck on your finals, hello_world.

May 01, 2000 16:37:56HOST/IP: 141.209.172.141

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) just+girl
I wanna kill that guy!
Otkuda tolko takiye idioti berutsya, kak etot BEN?!
Prosto udivitelno, chto on ne polenilsya stolko "nakalyakat". Dlya chego bilo stolko puteshestvovat po strane, chtobi potom takoye pisat?

Ya v negodovanii!!!!!

May 01, 2000 18:22:05HOST/IP: 210.150.159.154

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) hello_world
Sherzod,

The article is indeed interesting, as it presents the foreigner's perspective of Uzbekistan. It needs some corrections and proper explanations, to my mind, and it is very important that we inform the author and provide him some help.

I'll email him my comments and ask him if he does not mind them be posted in this forum.

Thanks for good wishes! Previous Page

On a side note:
I like this nick, as occasionally people realize that by replying to me they are talking to a much larger audience as well. Previous Page

-hello_world

May 01, 2000 20:23:31HOST/IP: 128.91.39.227

New Messagehuh? (modified 0 times) sherzod
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Dude, I can feel that audience that you represent Previous PagePrevious Page (With a little bit of sarcasm and harmless joke).
May 01, 2000 23:35:40HOST/IP: 141.209.150.11

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Niso
Sherzodik, privet!

Ya, konechno je polnostyu s toboy soglasna i znayu o nashih nedostatkah uj po krayney mere ne men'she togo amerikantsa. No i kak uvajayushiy sebya nezavisimiy i samostoyatel'niy chelovek ya prinimayu kritiku TOL'KO v KORREKTNOY forme, s ravnim uvajeniyem kak kritikuyushey, tak i kritikuyemoy storon.
V protivnom sluchaye eto ne kritika, a rugan' i oblivaniye drug-druga gryazyu.
Kakih bi tol'ko nedostatkov ne bilo u menya (ya obichno otvechayu za sebya, no v dannom sluchaye ponyatie "menya" nemnogo rasshireno) ya schitayu chto dostoyna uvajeniya, tak kak i v svoyu ochered' ya uvajayu ostal'nih.
Prejde vsego v cheloveke doljno bit' samouvajeniye, togda on tol'ko sposoben uvajet' ostal'nih.
A u takih lyudey kak etot amerikanets net ni samouvajeniya, ni uvajeniya k drugim- odno lish chuvstvo samodovol'stva.

S uvajeniyem,
Niso

PS: Ne rasstraivaysya, chto poyezdku domoy nemnogo otssrochili. Tebe yesho povezlo. Ya, naprimer, budu doma ne raneye oktyabrya. Mojet yesho uvidimsya. Take care!

May 02, 2000 11:19:37HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) KROKA
MLya ignorant b@$t@rd... Nu ladno na ego primer konversatsii civilizovannih Amerikantsov s necivilizovannimi uzbekami privoju kontr-primer (otoshlite emu)

Civilized Americans: So where you from?
Uncivilized Uzbek: Uzbekistan
Civilized Americans: Pakistan?
Uncivilized Uzbek: No it's former USSR
Civilized Americans: What's that?
Uncivilized Uzbek: Former Russia
Civilized Americans: Oh I see... Where is (barely pronouncing) Uz-bekistan
Uncivilized Uzbek: It's between Afghanistan, Russia, China and Iran
Civilized Americans: Oh my God... So how is life there?
Uncivilized Uzbek: Pretty good
Civilized Americans: Do you have cars?
Uncivilized Uzbek: No we ride camels
Civilized Americans: Wow.. that is so cool.
Uncivilized Uzbek: Yeah.. it so fun riding camels in the desert
Civilized Americans: Jesus f@@@@cking Christ (that's how they call their savior), so you live in Desert? do you have electricity?
Uncivilized Uzbek: No, but fire and candles are much better
Civilized Americans: What kind of food do you eat there?
Uncivilized Uzbek: Oh In the morning I get up, kill a deer then we cook it on the fire... Sometimes if I catch a snake - I eat that as a snack
Civilized Americans: Oh my goooooood.... So what does your family do for living?
Uncivilized Uzbek: My Dad is in KGB.
Civilized Americans: Really?
Uncivilized Uzbek: Oh yeah.. about 60% of labor force is employed in the KGB
Civilized Americans: So what are you doing in the USA?
Uncivilized Uzbek: : Hmm I am actually working for KGB too. But please don't tell anyone...
Civilized Americans: Oh ok...
Uncivilized Uzbek: Thanks..
Civilized Americans: Is your country Muslim?
Uncivilized Uzbek: Yes pretty much
Civilized Americans: So you have terrorists?
Uncivilized Uzbek: Terrorists? Don't call me terrorists.. All we want is to destroy Israel and bring Islam everywhere. I think women should be locked in the house, they don't need education and the best way to treat them is to beat them
Civilized Americans: Hmmm... Ok I gotta go.. C you around
Uncivilized Uzbek: C ya
(Next day CA tells all his friend about 100% true conversation with Uzbek)


THE ONLY WAY this can happen - is to have dumb and ignorant American listen to all this bull. AMERICANS never realize that they are the most ignorant nation in the world and believe in any b/s you tell them. At least Uzbeks heard of America from Communist teachings or from Hollywood. But Americans haven't heard of anything but their beloved country......

May 03, 2000 00:18:08HOST/IP: 170.140.92.213

New Message;) (modified 0 times) UniversaL
Salom!

Kroka, Amerikaliklar'ning "hech narsa"ni bilmasliklari bu ularning ignorancedan kelib chiqadi, bu tog'ri, ammo shu bilan birga manimcha yanada to'g'riroq bo'lar edi, agar-da shu "ignorance"ni ularning "manga tegishli emas ekan, nimaga bilishim(qoshilishim) kerak ekan" gapga bog'lasak, yani Ameriliklar g'ururlanadigan "independence, individualism"dan mana shunday kelishmovchiliklar chiqadi demoqchiman!

Ammo, nima bo'lganda ham O'zbekistonga kelgan mehmonning gaplarini "ignore" qilish ham noto'gri bolar edi...


Hurmat bilan,
UniversaL

May 03, 2000 01:31:59HOST/IP: 207.157.19.114

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) KROK
BEING GREAT FOR 20-30 YEARS DOES NOT MEAN ANYTHING, EVEN ROMAN EMPIRE FELL.... A USA DO NIH DALEKO....
May 03, 2000 02:28:54HOST/IP: 170.140.92.213

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Lonestar
i agree with KROK. amerikalik bola yozgan gaplar tugri,lekin esdan chiqarmaylikki chto usha amerikaliklar uzini mamlakatida shunga uhshash narsalarga etirbor bermaydi.
1)GREYHOUND (manimcha bu haqida gapirib utirishimga ham hojat yuq bulsa kerak.
2)geografiya degan fan bularda voobshe cirriculumdan olip tashlangan manimcha
E.g: While watching CNN, uzbek asks "civilized american"
-Do you know where Kosovo?
-Yeah...I think it is somewhere near Afghanistan(comment:at least they know that there is a country called afghanistan)
-?!?!? no, its near Albania!
3)Amishlarni kimligini bilsanglar, yoki hayotinglarga uchratgan bulsanglar bu haqida ham tuhtalib utirmayman.
4) some of them are DUMP!!!
E.g: Teacher shows the equation on the blackboard (2+x=4: x=2)
-How did you get 2?

i have some other thoughts about them, but i'm too lazy to type. even if i post my thoughts here, nothing will change. i just wanned to support KROK's ideas. bu yerda vaqtni utkazib tortishib utirganimiz bilan hec narsani uzgartirolmaymiz. daje u bolaga email yozsak ham uni fikrlarini uzgartiraolmasak kerak. i ya ne sobirayus' yemu niche dokazivat', potomu chto mne po&%* about what he thinks.

May 03, 2000 08:40:17HOST/IP: 165.190.211.81

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Lonestar
oops...i think i made couple mistakes. eto potomu chto ya toropilsya. i beg your pardon. please ignore my mistakes.
May 03, 2000 08:43:59HOST/IP: 165.190.211.81

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Niso
Qoyil, KROKA, Lonestar!!!
Podderjivayu.

VNIMANIYU REBYAT IZ DUHOVNOY SEMINARII (kotoriye kak mne pokazalos' strogo sledovali printsipu: "...i yesli udaryat tebya po pravoy sheke, to podstav' levuyu...): Sdachi toje nado davat'!

"Pered svinyami bisser ne mechut" i Mo'minlik s nashim velikim Uzbekskim gostepriimstvom tut ne pomogut, k sojaleniyu.
V takih sluchayah vajni sovsem drugiye kachestva!

Vsem udachi!

May 03, 2000 11:56:26HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: Nisoga (modified 0 times) nick name
i come from gulistan. remember the story of the university with no toilets? i've been there many times. most of what he(ben) wrote is true(shit!).
it is true that the university is absolutely empty from october to december.
it is true that the building has its best times behind it.
it is true that... well, i didn't know there were no toilets in the building, but i've never seen them, so it could be true.
and there are many other awful things that our dear mr bum-from-san-diego-united-states(sorry, that's what he says he is) probably did not have enough time to learn about.
so, i don't know what i could say contra.
it is my nation's tragedy, and im a part of this nation. i swallow my pride and anger.
and i hope. hope that someday we'll be able to bring changes, make things better. i dare advise you to do the same...
salom bilan

gulistonlik sanjar

May 05, 2000 15:00:24HOST/IP: 141.75.166.31

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Niso
Gulistonlik Sanjar!
V printsipe eto i ne vajno to say something contra... Zachem?
Edinstvenniy put': rabotat', rabotat' i rabotat'. Boltovnya tut definitely ne pomojet, but only action.
Pochemu takaya bol' v slovah? Cheer up!
S uvajeniyem,
Niso
May 05, 2000 16:46:05HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Kto-to
Dlya togo chto bi vas horosho znali ya dumayu nado chto-to sdelat' dlya etogo dlya nachala
A na schet shedevra Kroka - ya tebya prosto obazhayu, takogo eshe nikto ne smog peredat' Previous Page
ti prosto prelest'! Previous Page
I love you too Previous Page
May 07, 2000 19:33:48HOST/IP: 134.225.16.2

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) KROKA
Vse obyasneniya v lyubvi plz pisat' na address:

user91011@mailcity.com Previous Page

Promise to keep your responces in strict privacy.

I love you too ______________ (Fill in blank with your name (To whom applicable)) Previous Page
KROKA

May 08, 2000 04:14:09HOST/IP: 170.140.92.213

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Kto-to
I thought that you are in savanna...Previous Page
May 08, 2000 19:26:43HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Kto-to
...i redkoles'e
May 08, 2000 19:27:43HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) KROKA
Da ya byl v Savanne, no u menya segodnya exam byl i zavtra Previous Page
No ya obratno edu tuda Previous Page priejjay poedem vmeste Previous Page

Che takoe redkolesye?

I love you too ___________________ (vpishite imya)

KROKA

May 08, 2000 20:14:31HOST/IP: 170.140.92.213

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Kto-to :) (yakobi)
Previous Page obyazatelno
May 08, 2000 20:23:44HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) :) Kto-to
redkoles'e - eto kogda redkie lesa...pryamo kak v savanne...Previous Page
udachi Previous Page
May 08, 2000 20:25:43HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) KROKA
FYI: V Savanne (Savannah, GA) ochen mnogo derevyev Previous Page Osobenno Pal'm Previous Page

I love you too __________ (fill in blanks)

KROKA

May 08, 2000 21:57:32HOST/IP: 170.140.134.105

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Kto-to
znachit eto uzhe les a ne savanna Previous Page

__________(fill in blanks)

May 09, 2000 09:59:12HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Kto-to-to-to
...palmoviy les...
May 09, 2000 10:00:09HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) KROKA
A chelovek kotoriy nazval etot gorod navernoe ne znal Previous Page
On navernoe ne takoy umniy byl kak ___________ (fill in the blank)
i ne bral stochastic calculus i fixed income securities Previous Page

KROKA
PS Kak tvoya presentation

May 09, 2000 12:30:31HOST/IP: 170.140.92.213

New MessageRE: (modified 0 times) Tot-zhe
advanced (!) fixed income securities Previous Page
zhelayu tebe udachi

__________(blanks?!) Previous Page

May 09, 2000 13:43:41HOST/IP: 134.225.16.1

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